{"id":30167,"date":"2023-06-28T22:25:31","date_gmt":"2023-06-28T20:25:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/?p=30167"},"modified":"2023-06-28T22:25:33","modified_gmt":"2023-06-28T20:25:33","slug":"cameria-eshte-nje-drame-qe-akoma-nuk-ka-marre-zgjidhjeinterviste-me-studiuesin-e-ceshtjes-came-hajredin-isufi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/2023\/06\/cameria-eshte-nje-drame-qe-akoma-nuk-ka-marre-zgjidhjeinterviste-me-studiuesin-e-ceshtjes-came-hajredin-isufi\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201c\u00c7am\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dram\u00eb q\u00eb akoma nuk ka marr\u00eb zgjidhje\u201d!Intervist\u00eb me studiuesin e \u00e7\u00ebshtjes \u00e7ame, Hajredin Isufi"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Kur flitet p\u00ebr \u00c7am\u00ebrin\u00eb dhe p\u00ebr p\u00ebrvjetorin e masakrave atje gj\u00ebja e par\u00eb q\u00eb na vjen n\u00eb mendje jan\u00eb historian\u00ebt, d\u00ebshmitar\u00ebt okular\u00eb apo edhe studiuesit t\u00eb cil\u00ebt merren me k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

N\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr median ton\u00eb n\u00eb lidhje me k\u00ebt\u00eb histori t\u00eb dhimbshme studiuesi dhe historiani \u00e7am Hajredin Isufi thot\u00eb se 27 qershor 1944 \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dat\u00eb e zez\u00eb p\u00ebr historin\u00eb e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ai quan nj\u00eb masak\u00ebr t\u00eb eg\u00ebr t\u00eb grek\u00ebve ndaj shqiptar\u00ebve t\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb dhe n\u00eb vijim t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb tij shprehet: \u201cHistoria e k\u00ebsaj masakre duhet par\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb aspekt shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm. Pyetja e par\u00eb q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb nj\u00eb studiues \u00ebsht\u00eb: pse shqiptar\u00ebt e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb u masakruan q\u00eb nga viti 1913 deri n\u00eb vitin 1940 n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb? Q\u00eb n\u00eb vitin 1913  kur qeveria greke pushtoi \u00c7am\u00ebrin\u00eb me arm\u00eb dhe e vuri plan vetes ta zhduk\u00eb dhe ta \u00e7rr\u00ebnjos\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb komunitet nga trojet e veta\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Duke folur p\u00ebr arsyen e armiq\u00ebsis\u00eb s\u00eb grek\u00ebve ndaj \u00e7am\u00ebve Isufi thot\u00eb se shqiptar\u00ebt kishin nj\u00eb komb\u00ebsi tjet\u00ebr, flisnin nj\u00eb gjuh\u00eb tjet\u00ebr dhe kishin nj\u00eb fe tjet\u00ebr. \u201cGreqia \u00ebsht\u00eb i vetmi vend at\u00ebher\u00eb dhe sot q\u00eb do nj\u00eb komunitet t\u00eb vetin dhe nuk do ta p\u00ebrziej\u00eb me komunitetet t\u00eb tjer\u00eb\u201d, thot\u00eb Isufi dhe m\u00eb pas shton: \u201cEdhe sot e k\u00ebsaj dite n\u00eb Greqi  nuk kan\u00eb liri komunitetet. Nuk kan\u00eb liri fetare, politike apo liri q\u00eb mund ti ket\u00eb nj\u00eb komunitet n\u00eb \u00e7do vend tjet\u00ebr\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Isufi foli edhe p\u00ebr shp\u00ebrnguljen e \u00e7am\u00ebve drejt Turqis\u00eb, nd\u00ebrsa duke cekur edhe historin\u00eb e k\u00ebtyre marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieve ai thot\u00eb: \u201cGreqia mori nj\u00eb ok p\u00ebr t\u00eb sulmuar Turqin\u00eb dhe forcat turke t\u00eb asaj kohe nuk rezistuan dot por pak koh\u00eb m\u00eb von\u00eb forcat turke i dhan\u00eb nj\u00eb goditje shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00eb Greqis\u00eb dhe e detyroi qeverin\u00eb greke t\u00eb shp\u00ebrngulte nga zona e Turqis\u00eb 1 milion\u00eb e 350 mij\u00eb grek\u00eb t\u00eb strehuar n\u00eb Turqi. Nga ana tjet\u00ebr n\u00eb kuad\u00ebr t\u00eb nj\u00eb marr\u00ebveshjeje grek\u00ebt q\u00eb jetonin n\u00eb Turqi u vendos\u00ebn n\u00eb Greqi, nd\u00ebrsa turqit e Epirit t\u00eb d\u00ebrgoheshin n\u00eb Turqi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

K\u00ebtu tentativa e par\u00eb e Greqis\u00eb ishte p\u00ebrfshirja e shqiptar\u00ebve mysliman\u00eb t\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb marr\u00ebveshje q\u00eb nuk kishte asnj\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebt me turqit. E vetmja gj\u00eb q\u00eb i bashkonte k\u00ebta ishte feja. Por feja e nj\u00ebjt\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb thoshte q\u00eb ata kishin t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn komb\u00ebsi. N\u00eb traktatin e Lozan\u00ebs i cili u b\u00eb n\u00eb vitin 1923 pati debate t\u00eb m\u00ebdha. I vetmi shtet q\u00eb i doli n\u00eb mb\u00ebshtetje k\u00ebsaj \u00e7\u00ebshtje ishte p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesi i Turqis\u00eb dhe ai i Italis\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebt than\u00eb q\u00eb popullsia e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb popullsi turke dhe si e till\u00eb nuk duhet t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshihet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Q\u00ebndresa e tyre ishte kaq e fort\u00eb saq\u00eb detyroi qeverin\u00eb greke t\u00eb t\u00ebrhiqet. Vet\u00eb Venizelos n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb koh\u00eb deklaroi se k\u00ebta jan\u00eb nj\u00eb popullsi autoktone n\u00eb trojet e veta dhe prandaj nuk duhet t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshihen n\u00eb shk\u00ebmbim. Nga ana tjet\u00ebr ministri grek n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb thot\u00eb q\u00eb qeveria greke ka marr\u00eb nj\u00eb vendim q\u00eb popullsin\u00eb \u00e7ame n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rajon t\u00eb mos e l\u00ebviz\u00eb dhe t\u00eb mos e ngat\u00ebrroj\u00eb me popullsin\u00eb turke.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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-Jasht\u00eb tolerant dhe brenda agresor<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cKjo ishte nj\u00eb taktik\u00eb djall\u00ebzore e Greqis\u00eb. N\u00eb politik\u00ebn e jashtme tregonte q\u00eb ishte shum\u00eb tolerante dhe e drejt\u00eb me marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien me komunitetet nga ana tjet\u00ebr kjo mendoi q\u00eb me presione, shtr\u00ebngime dhe forma t\u00eb ndryshme t\u00eb makinacioneve t\u00eb detyronte me dashje q\u00eb t\u00eb largohej kjo popullsi dhe q\u00eb k\u00ebtu nis\u00ebn presionet e m\u00ebdha\u201d, shprehet  studiuesi dhe m\u00eb pas shton: \u201cPresione nga administrata lokale, nga qeveria, ndjekja e patriot\u00ebve dhe si rrjedhoj\u00eb pjesa m\u00eb e madhe e popullsis\u00eb \u00e7ame n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb koh\u00eb u detyrua t\u00eb largohet por n\u00eb shumic\u00ebn e rasteve rezistoi. Megjithat\u00eb pati dhe nga ata q\u00eb u larguan.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

 N\u00eb vitin 1923 qeveria e Zogut nxori nj\u00eb ligj p\u00ebr p\u00ebrcaktimin e vendeve dhe trojeve p\u00ebr strehimin e \u00e7am\u00ebve t\u00eb larguar, por k\u00ebt\u00eb e vuri n\u00eb zbatim n\u00eb vitin 1931. E vetmja qeveri e cila i shtriu dor\u00ebn \u00e7am\u00ebve n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb koh\u00eb ishte Turqia. Jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb i pranoi, i p\u00ebrballoi shpenzimet e rrug\u00ebs etj. N\u00eb historiografin\u00eb shqiptare ky studim mungon. Sepse jemi m\u00ebsuar t\u00eb themi se Turqia veproi nj\u00eblloj si Greqia. Greqia largoi \u00e7am\u00ebt p\u00ebr t\u00eb boshatisur Epirin, nd\u00ebrsa Turqia k\u00ebrkonte \u00e7am\u00ebt p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbushur cepat e Anadollit. Kjo gj\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pse Greqia ishte kaq e ashp\u00ebr?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Po p\u00ebrse Greqia ishte kaq e ashp\u00ebr me shqiptar\u00ebt e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb? Duke folur m\u00eb gjer\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, Isufi thot\u00eb: \u201cP\u00ebrve\u00e7 atyre gj\u00ebrave q\u00eb thash; komb\u00ebsis\u00eb, gjuh\u00ebs dhe fes\u00eb ajo kishte rr\u00ebnjosur n\u00eb shpirtin e saj tendenc\u00ebn e hakmarrjes ndaj musliman\u00ebve t\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb. N\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebri nuk ka pasur as konflikte mes musliman\u00ebve dhe grek\u00ebve. P\u00ebrkundrazi, ka patur nj\u00eb harmoni t\u00eb plot\u00eb. N\u00eb shum\u00eb fshatra shum\u00eb musliman\u00eb e kishin origjin\u00ebn nga t\u00eb krishter\u00eb. Ka qen\u00eb njer\u00ebz t\u00eb krishter\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebt jan\u00eb islamizuar n\u00eb shekullin e 15-16. Edhe pse e till\u00eb armiq\u00ebsia ishte e madhe.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Duke theksuar se masakrat m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha n\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebri i kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb njer\u00ebz t\u00eb ardhur nga zona t\u00eb thella pasi edhe drejtuesit lokal\u00eb ishin nga zona t\u00eb larg\u00ebta dhe t\u00eb thella pasi nuk donin t\u00eb kishte vendas me frik\u00ebn se mund t\u00eb kishte ndonj\u00eb toleranc\u00eb ndaj \u00e7am\u00ebve, Isufi n\u00eb vijim t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb tij u fut n\u00eb detajet e masakrave duke th\u00ebn\u00eb: \u201cN\u00eb Paramitos u b\u00eb nj\u00eb masak\u00ebr e eg\u00ebr. Paramithia u rrethua 3-4 muaj p\u00ebrpara. Ky rrethim u b\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mos kishte asnj\u00eb lloj l\u00ebvizjeje. Kur u b\u00eb sulmi i Paramithis\u00eb u paralajm\u00ebruan qytetar\u00ebt. Ne kemi bashk\u00ebjetuar shum\u00eb mir\u00eb dhe n\u00eb harmoni.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c7do gj\u00eb q\u00eb ka ndodhur ia kemi l\u00ebn\u00eb luft\u00ebs. Pas luft\u00ebs do t\u00eb jetojm\u00eb n\u00eb paqe. Kjo i vuri n\u00eb gjum\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt. Dhe si pasoj\u00eb, q\u00eb t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen filloi masakra. Masakra filloi q\u00eb nga sht\u00ebpit\u00eb. Duke sulmuar grat\u00eb, f\u00ebmij\u00ebt, burrat dhe t\u00eb moshuarit. Aq shum\u00eb saq\u00eb rrug\u00ebt e Paramithis\u00eb u mbush\u00ebn me gjak. Nga ana tjet\u00ebr nuk merrej vesh se \u00e7far\u00eb b\u00ebhej n\u00eb Paramithi. \u00c7am\u00ebt q\u00eb jetonin p\u00ebrreth Paramithis\u00eb m\u00ebsuan masakr\u00ebn atje p\u00ebrmes miqve t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb krishter\u00eb q\u00eb hynin dhe dilnin. Duke m\u00ebsuar k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb ata mor\u00ebn masa duke nisur nj\u00eb lloj mbrojtje popullore. Njer\u00ebz t\u00eb cil\u00ebt mund t\u00eb luftonin dol\u00ebn n\u00eb zona t\u00eb caktuara p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndaluar masakra t\u00eb tjera t\u00eb mundshme. Patjet\u00ebr q\u00eb nuk mund ti dilnin ball\u00eb ushtris\u00eb s\u00eb armatosur mir\u00eb, por megjithat\u00eb ata b\u00ebn\u00eb rezistenc\u00eb.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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-\u00c7am\u00ebt nuk kan\u00eb qen\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb hakmarr\u00ebs<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Megjithat\u00eb \u00e7am\u00ebt nuk kan\u00eb qen\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb hakmarr\u00ebs ndaj gjenocidit q\u00eb iu \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb thot\u00eb studiuesi duke dh\u00ebn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb shembull: N\u00eb tetor t\u00eb vitit 1940 u internuan nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e madhe e \u00e7am\u00ebve duke u detyruar t\u00eb l\u00ebn\u00eb pas pasurit\u00eb e tyre t\u00eb luajtshme dhe t\u00eb paluajtshme. \u00c7do gj\u00eb e tyre u grabit. Madje edhe vajzat dhe grat\u00eb e tyre u p\u00ebrdhunuan nga grek\u00ebt. \u00c7am\u00ebt kur erdh\u00ebn nga internimi u ballafaquan me krimet e r\u00ebnda q\u00eb kishin p\u00ebrjetuar familjet e tyre dhe k\u00ebta u frenuan p\u00ebr tu hakmarr\u00eb ndaj atyre q\u00eb ishin b\u00ebr\u00eb. Ka shum\u00eb autor\u00eb grek\u00eb q\u00eb flasin p\u00ebr \u00e7am\u00ebt ku thon\u00eb se ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb men\u00e7ur dhe asnj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk krijuan hakmarrje. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Duke folur p\u00ebr nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr t\u00eb ri t\u00eb botuar nga nj\u00eb qytetar i krishter\u00eb i Filatit p\u00ebrkund\u00ebr akuzave ndaj \u00e7am\u00ebve q\u00eb ngrihen sot nga grek\u00ebt ai thot\u00eb: \u2018Filatin nuk e \u00c7am\u00ebria. Filatin e prish\u00ebn dhe e dogj\u00ebn disa halabak\u00eb.\u2019 Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb historia e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb v\u00eb drit\u00eb mbi mjegull\u00ebn e keqe greke thot\u00eb Isufi n\u00eb vijim t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb tij. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nd\u00ebrsa duke u ndalur tek bashk\u00ebjetesa e popujve, Isufi thot\u00eb: \u201cPopujt e duan nj\u00ebri-tjetrin. Popujt nuk jan\u00eb zullumqar\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebri-tjetrit, zullumqar\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb politika, \u00ebsht\u00eb klani politik q\u00eb i nd\u00ebrsejn\u00eb njer\u00ebzit kund\u00ebr komunitetit \u00e7am. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

N\u00eb fund t\u00eb fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb tij studiuesi Isufi thot\u00eb: \u201c\u00c7am\u00ebria e p\u00ebsoi shum\u00eb keq pasi n\u00eb luft\u00ebn antifashiste ata u bashkuan me forcat greke p\u00ebr q\u00eb k\u00ebta ja kishin me hile\u201d.  \u201cL\u00ebvizja anti-fashiste greke nuk ka qen\u00eb e predispozuar p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndihmuar popullsin\u00eb \u00e7ame. P\u00ebrse nuk nd\u00ebrhyn\u00eb ata kur u b\u00ebn\u00eb masakrat n\u00eb Parimit? N\u00eb Filat, etj? T\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebto i kam nga burimet greke. Kur ishte fjala p\u00ebr gjenocid ndaj \u00e7am\u00ebve forcat anti-fashiste bashkoheshin me forcat Anizelos. Me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera \u00c7am\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dram\u00eb q\u00eb akoma nuk ka marr\u00eb zgjidhje. Zgjidhja e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebhet vet\u00ebm at\u00ebher\u00eb kur ta ket\u00eb si prokupacion kryesor qeveria shqiptare dhe vet\u00eb \u00e7am\u00ebt t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsohen p\u00ebr vendin dhe historin\u00eb e tyre dhe t\u00eb din\u00eb \u00e7ka p\u00ebrjetuar kombi i tyre.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

 -Gjenocidi n\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebri<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nga qershori i vitit 1944 deri n\u00eb mars t\u00eb vitit 1945,  shqiptar\u00ebt e \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb p\u00ebrjetuan nj\u00eb gjenocid nga forcat greke n\u00ebn komand\u00ebn e Napoleon Zerv\u00ebs, q\u00eb shkakto vdekjen masive t\u00eb civil\u00ebve, por shkat\u00ebrrimin, grabitjen dhe konfiskimin e pronave t\u00eb tyre. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jan\u00eb rreth 5 mij\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb t\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb, mes tyre t\u00eb moshuar, gra dhe f\u00ebmij\u00eb q\u00eb humb\u00ebn jet\u00ebn nga masakrat dhe nga vuajtjet. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Si pasoj\u00eb e masakrave u spastrua etnikisht nj\u00eb popullsi prej 35.000 banor\u00ebsh, shqiptar\u00eb mysliman\u00eb t\u00eb \u00c7am\u00ebris\u00eb q\u00eb u vendos\u00ebn kryesisht n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri si refugjat\u00eb, por edhe n\u00eb vende t\u00eb tjera.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Burimi: Agora<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Kur flitet p\u00ebr \u00c7am\u00ebrin\u00eb dhe p\u00ebr p\u00ebrvjetorin e masakrave atje gj\u00ebja e par\u00eb q\u00eb na vjen n\u00eb mendje jan\u00eb historian\u00ebt, d\u00ebshmitar\u00ebt okular\u00eb apo edhe studiuesit t\u00eb cil\u00ebt merren me k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje.\u00a0 N\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr median ton\u00eb n\u00eb lidhje me k\u00ebt\u00eb histori t\u00eb dhimbshme studiuesi dhe historiani \u00e7am Hajredin Isufi thot\u00eb se 27 qershor 1944 […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":30172,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1358],"tags":[3714,3715],"class_list":["post-30167","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-cameri","tag-studiues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30167","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30167"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30167\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/30172"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30167"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30167"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/intervista.al\/web\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30167"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}